segunda-feira, 2 de junho de 2008


Dudes... as soon as possible, send me summarized lines of your research to make the handouts (use the administrator's e-mail, and warn me in the comments to this post when you did it). Something like 'did you know that...?'. I gotta have that by tomorrow, so that I may ... do it. I don't know about the powerpoint, but alright, I can do it also, just send me the topics of what you're gonna talk about. Keep it simple, really just the topics. The discussion will be about homosexual couples having kids, right? Ok, keep in touch. C ya ;) 

21 comentários:

Saul Santos disse...

Hey tiago,what's up?Look,I researched about homossexuality,and came out with plenty of good questions.I think we could just talk about this,there's plenty of chances for a good discussion.Look:
“Is being gay a genetic disorder, or just a choice?”

"The mere act of homosexuality is against recreation, it is genetic suicide."
“Should gay marriage be allowed?”
“If gay couples could adopt babies, what would be the consequences for this child in the future?”

and i found some did you know stuff:
One in five children will have a consensual encounter of a homosexual nature with another child due to confusion and curiosity, but almost none will ever repeat the behaviour in adulthood.

Most homosexuals claim that their attraction to members of the same sex is something they did not choose, which is somewhat supported by research. Certain studies of homosexual cadavers have identified differences in brain structure and an X-chromosome gene not present in heterosexuals.

children develop a dislike for the opposite sex due to the differences in gender behaviour patterns, yet eventually they are unable to resist the attraction.

The powerpoint could be just a simple presentation with the questions.

what do you think?

also,if you have time,read this:
http://www.reasoned.org/e_sex.htm
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/the-genetic-switch-that-can-turn-homosexuality-on-and-off-identified_1008333.html

good read!

Saul's out

Carina disse...

Hey, guys. Look, about the historical prespective and all, I was only able to find stuff till the Middle Ages. I think with all of that, we can set part of the discussion on comparing with today's situation.
As for the questions you asked Tiago, I'm sorry, but i'll just be able to send them later today. I'm still analysing the stuff I found. Please do check your mail around six. Later.

Carina disse...

Hey there again
I've just sent my part. Sorry about the time, it took me longer than I'd expected
See yah

Saul Santos disse...

where are we?how should we organize this?

Tiago disse...

Saul - that's pretty good info there, but try to organize it into the 5/7 minutes each of us will talk... and then somehow pull that into the discussion, as you're being the last to talk. Any good sums for the handout or the powerpoint? If not, I'll just choose the most controversial phrases into the powerpoint and handout, although not as guidelines. Nice job!

Carina - good work, but I'll chop it a little so it won't be too confusing on the powerpoint. Whatever doesn't appear on the pp, you'll just say it... I'll take some info outta this to the handout.

Bernardo - I saw your e-mail. I think I'll make use of those too viewpoints (pro and con) on homosexuals having kids to the handout, but we already got things organized in terms of the talking... Maybe you could fill in some blanks Saul might have in his talk, and take part in the discussion.

Everyone... I'll be doing the intro, if you don't mind, coz I found the other groups didn't focus on it. Just to say what we gonna talk about, and what the discussion will be about, so people can have some thoughts while we talk. The handouts should be given at the beggining, coz if not, people start looking at them and neglect us! Oh, and what you think about this title to the presentation: Let's talk about sex!, good, ei? C YA!!

(Read that sheet with "dicas" for the presentation if you feel the need, it has really good info)

Tiago disse...

Carina - do you agree? Take some notes as guidelines or even reading text for what doesn't appear in the pp. Coz if not it will look really ... too much... and people don't know when to read or when to listen... Take care ***

Tiago disse...

Saul - about the whole presentation being just about that... Only you did research on that matter, and we also gotta talk bout sometin, and it's really interesting and it could go on for hours, but let's leave it to the end, and for the discussion. Bernardo also did some research on that, he can help to start the fire!

Tiago disse...

Bernardo - we should have talked about this, but do you insist on having some time to talk about what you researched or do you just wanna take part on the discussion, and maybe add some facts to Saul's part?

Saul Santos disse...

Hmm ok,o,what should i focus on?

also,more did you know.See if it fits.

During the female orgasm, endorphines are released, which are powerful painkillers. So headaches are in fact a bad excuse not to have sex.

Odors that increase blood flow to the penis:lavender, licorice, chocolate, doughnuts, pumpkin pie.

Sex is a beauty treatment. Scientific tests find that when women make love they produce amounts of the hormone estrogen, which makes hair shine and skin smooth.

Sex is a natural antihistamine. It can help combat asthma and hay fever

Saul Santos disse...

While this fact is neither entertaining nor humorous, it’s shocking to note that homosexuality remained on the American Psychiatric Association's list of mental illnesses until 1973.

Saul Santos disse...

Sex is biochemically no different from eating large quantities of chocolate

Males, on average, think about sex every 7 seconds.

Tiago disse...

Saul - I don't know... maybe focus on those recent scientific facts about homos (try not to sound for or against it..., we don't know if we gonna hurt anybody's feelings), and then initialize the discussion by talking about the pros and cons on homos adopting kids, or just make some questions... Summe it up dude. I already finished my talking about Kinsey, am doing the powerpoint, and later still gotta do the handouts...

Carina - already done your pp part: I divided it by every civilization you mentioned (a page each) and chose 3 facts for each one. Very good work! ;)

Tiago disse...

Saul - also, very good 'did you know' facts! Now stop research and start organizing! ;)

Saul Santos disse...

alright then,i'm gonna organize my part,tell me afterwards when am i going to talk alright?I'm thinking about starting with the genetic and choice factors and then move on to some of the questions I have there.

how are you dealing with the organization?i mean,i i think that,because our work is more about sections inside a theme - sex - we should organize it by sections,and we'll say that each one of us would talk about something we'd like inside this theme.what do you think'

Saul Santos disse...

“Is being gay a genetic disorder, or just a choice?”
-scientists proved that homosexuals have a disorder in a chromosome, which makes them more predisposed to engage with mates from the same gender. But this would imply that homosexuality is a disease, and, even though gay people say that they are born that way, they are not so happy about the ‘anomaly’ flag. The discussion goes on, but it doesn’t matter that much. If life is about choices – even if they are genetically ‘limited’, then everyone should choose what they feel like choosing. It’s their lives. Their choices. There are far more important issues about homosexuality than its origins.
"The mere act of homosexuality is against recreation, it is genetic suicide."
This is a good thought. Well, if we all turn gay, we would eventually become extinct. Of course, this is more of a religious point of view than anything else. They see sex as a pure act of procreation. Nothing else. But in the real world, it’s almost impossible for this to happen. The percentage of gay people is minimal, (hence the anomaly tag) so, extinction is far away from happening.
“Should gay marriage be allowed?”
Since marriage is deeply connected to religion, this would be something pointless for me to argue, as i’m not religious. But a religious person would say that homosexuality is wrong and against God’s will. True or not, rules are rules and I wouldn’t see that happening in the near future. But, ‘registry marriage’ should be legal, as like I said before, people are free to marry whoever they want. As long as they pay their taxes and do their duties as a citizen, why not letting them getting married?
“If gay couples could adopt babies, what would be the consequences for this child in the future?”
This is the most important issue here for me. Now we’re not dealing with one’s choices. We’re dealing with third person’s wills and choices, persons that will eventually suffer from traumas for something they didn’t choose. The question is not whether gay people know how to love and educate a child and supply them with everything they need. The question is, how will the child react when he or she realizes the truth? That’ll probably happen in his or her adolescence, where their minds are all messed up from all the sexual crazyness and growth. That, I believe, would deeply traumatize that kid. He wouldn’t feel normal, like other kids, and we all know that in those times, we just want to fit in. So, personally, i’m against this, all because it’s not dealing with one self’s will, but with other’s will, others that cannot make choices.



--- this is what i'm going to talk about.basically lol.

in the power point, put just the questions, i'll talk about them afterwards.
I'll be brief,that is just a rolemodel,i won't probably even read it

Tiago disse...

Saul - yeah, I think I'm just gonna put the most controversial questions in your ppoint part... Wow, that site about turning homosexuality on and off...! What a f***ing shock! Keep it cool, guys!

Tiago disse...

Read your post now, good work. About the organization: I do the intro, Carina does her talking, I do mine, and you come last to make the transition into the discussion, cool? Almost done here... The handouts still to be done... F*** ;)

Saul Santos disse...

are you going to put all of the 4 questions?
sorry dude,you're doing the most boring part...
anyway,yeah,that organization is fine by me.any word about bernardo yet?

Saul Santos disse...

hey guys,i would just like to congratulate you all for being awsome with this.Really nice,turned out way better than i was expecting.Congrats to us all :D

bernardo disse...

WE'RE THE BEST...NICE JOB GUYS!:D

Anónimo disse...

I don't think it would be fair for be to barge in at this time... Good luck y'all...